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Marcia Clark: How I Got My First DA Job "Thank you, Ms. Clark. We'll be in touch," said the older of the two senior
deputy district attorneys. So ended my final round of interviews for the District Attorney's Office. I let the heavy metal door click into place behind me and turned to walk down the fluorescent lit hallway. My heels tapped out a sharp staccato against
the tiled floor that looked almost as old as the bilious green walls, now
dingy after years of accumulated smoke, dirt and God knew what else.
It was a far cry from the thickly carpeted suite of the law firm I'd just
come from, but I wanted desperately to call it home. The gritty, no-frills
atmosphere suited me to a "T", as did the prospect of doing daily battle in a
courtroom. Unfortunately, after the veritable slugfest of an interview I'd
just completed, I was sure that my prospects were, at best, dim.
"I blew it, boy oh boy, did I ever blow it," I thought dejectedly. But I had
to admit that it'd been fun. Duking it out with a senior deputy, (we'd
practically been yelling at each other by the end of the hour) had been
exhilarating.
I smiled ruefully at the memory, shaking my head in a mixture
of remorse and cynical self-recognition. I never did know when to back
down, did I? How did it escalate to that point? Talk about shooting yourself
in the foot. Damnit, I'd really wanted that job. I sighed with
disappointment but vowed not to let myself sink into a funk. 'It's water
under the bridge, spilled milk and all that jazz, Clark, let it go' I told
myself. Besides, who knew? Maybe they were looking for someone with a little spunk.
Or a lot of spunk. Probably not that much spunk. Damn.
As I left the building after that disastrous interview I was sure I'd never
hear from them again.
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If you've been regaled with tales of interviews that took place over
three-martini lunches at high class restaurants or catered gourmet lunches
served in lushly appointed conference rooms, I can promise you that those
stories definitely did not concern an interview in any DA's office.
In Los Angeles County, the hiring process is something like running a
gauntlet. If you can make it through all the obstacles and hazards you just
might get the job. It is a test of one's tenacity.
To get the ball rolling, all you have to do is get down to the main office
downtown and fill out one of those typical government forms that want: a)
your second cousin's aunt's maiden name, b) a list of every school you ever
attended since the age of six and c) every job you ever held since you were
twelve years old. All squeezed into boxes so small it would be a challenge to
fit in your ring size, let alone your last position in a multi-surnamed law
firm.
Then you wait for the personnel department to call you in for an interview
(which they won't for maybe as long as a year, if there's a hiring freeze on).
By the time they do call, you'll probably have chucked your plans for a
career as a prosecutor in favor of training to be a bush pilot in the
Australian Outback.
However, if you've managed to remain stalwart in your desire to get the bad
guy (or just couldn't find gainful employment that kept you above the
poverty line) the next step is the deceptively easy screening phase. I say
deceptive because no one tells you it's just a screening phase. They tell
you it's your first "interview". Naturally, one thinks of the big enchilada,
the do or die, show 'em what you got phase, right?
So naturally, I fully expected to be grilled extensively about my past
experience on the other side of counsel table (I'd been clerking and then
lawyering in criminal defense for the past four years). I was prepared for the worst ("why should we hire a sleazy defense scum-bagette?"). My fears were
immediately allayed by the genial pair of deputies who acted impressed by my
resume and murmured appreciatively about my previous experience in criminal
law. They assured me I would be called back shortly for my next
interview. 'Piece of cake' I thought as I stepped - no, strutted - out of their office.
'But wait a minute, what did they mean "next interview"? What's left? I
stuck my head back in the door and asked what the next interview would be
about. "Oh don't worry, you'll just be asked a few legal hypotheticals, no big deal" they said.
Thus was I lulled into a false sense of security.
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About two weeks later I got the call telling me to report back for my next
interview. When I showed up for my date with destiny I was the picture of
cool. After that first softball interview I'd seen what a pair of pussycats
those big, bad deputies were. I figured I'd sail right into a promising
future as a deputy district attorney. Who knew? Maybe they'd be so impressed
they'd hire me right on the spot. No problemo.
"Ms. Clark? Please step into that room, it's the first door on your right"
said the secretary in charge of corralling the applicants.
I opened the pale gray metal door to find a room about the size of a
Port-A-Potty. And it was just about as luxuriously appointed too: a metal
table fronted two veteran deputy district attorneys seated side-by-side
opposite a metal chair whose seat cushion had seen better days back in the
Gold Rush.
The two senior deputies, looking none too pleased to see me, gestured toward
that "chair" and asked me to have a seat.
As I sank into the metal chair it began to dawn on me that this wasn't going
to be such a piece of cake after all. I felt my heart start to pound faster
and forced myself to take a deep breath as I tried to clear my head. The
roar of the blood rushing through my ears was so loud I nearly missed the
fact that one of the deputies was talking to me. Oh great, terrific, I get
to start the most important interview of my life by saying "Huh, what?". I
leaned forward and focused all my attention in a furious effort to avert that
disaster.
The smaller, darker one (I was told that they always give their names but I
don't remember hearing them and I'm convinced they never gave me any -
deniability is everything) had started right out with a robbery hypothetical:
"A woman is robbed at gunpoint in a dark alley....."
What followed were a series of questions posed first by the small dark one, then another series by the blondish one. After each question one of the deputies would add a few more facts and then another series of legal
questions would follow.
I was doing okay, or at least I thought so, until the blondish one started
getting louder and pushier. Never one to back down from a fight, I got louder and pushier too. The exchange culminated with him adding another fact to the hypothetical and saying "but your last answer didn't take that into account did it?"
"I don't see how it could, that fact wasn't in the hypothetical when you
asked the question. If you add that fact, then of course my answer would
change".
No sooner had the words left my mouth than I thought, "Oh man, you've done it
now." It doesn't read too badly, does it? It sure didn't sound the way it reads.
If the interview lasted more than a minute after that I'm sure I don't remember it. The deputies cordially thanked me for my time and I cordially got my
butt off the chair and slipped out the door, grateful not to find a cop
standing outside waiting to strip me of my bar card.
At first I felt pretty good. I had stood my ground and I was still a member
of the bar. Life was good. That lasted for about one minute.
"Hey, Marcia, phone call. It's the DA's Office".
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